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Kill Dr Weir, you say?

Kill Dr. Weir

"I am become Death"

Kill Dr Weir, you say?

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Sorry, no, this isn't a fic post; the newest season (the fourth) of Atlantis has begun, and lo! The showrunners just about killed Dr Weir off themselves in their eagerness to haul Sam Carter into the Commander's Chair in Atlantis!  

I know to some/many, no matter how loathesome Weir's command abilties were, she was, at least, Atlantis's loathesomely, badly written female commander. She was the leader whom we loved to hate, but in whom we could see the possibilities.

Carter, though? - Is SG-1's Colonel Mistake, and appears to be transferring all her bad habits of arrogance, bad personal  judgement and blonde superiority to Atlantis. There is no humorous fun in killing Carter off: she is not a love-to-hate kind of character, not anymore. Carter is more of a hate-to-hate character. Where's the fun in that? There's no tongue in cheek. There's no slight roll to the eyeballs. There's little humor in the situation.

Long live Dr Weir, may she be around long enough to be a huge pain in the tuchas to Col. Carter!
  • MF WEIR!

    At least she was *ours*.

    Rat Bastards gotta bring Super Sam over to fix us up and make us appreciate the crap writing of S1-3.

    SGA is so on super-probation with me. I mean, they made Bill Lee a lech! He had the twilight bark and kids and then he was a lech.

    First Lee, now Weir, it's just WRONG.
    • Re: MF WEIR!

      I'm glad I didn't see them turn Bill Lee into a lech. Was that on SG-1, or on an Atlantis episode? (I stopped watching SG-1 for real after season 9, and I could see the writing on the wall with Vala)

      Personally, I think Torri Higginson is the better actress, with more range (when allowed to show it on Atlantis) than Tapping was ever allowed to show on SG-1. k

      It's a fascinating train wreck.
      • True.. sad, but true

        I mean, I think it was a S10 ep where he talks about hitting on a bunch of women, it was bad. I'm in denial; Bill's a family man whose wife crochets and has two kids, one slightly more geeky, one he just doesn't quite know what to do with- an athlete and popular girl. Hey, it's my wank and I'll how I want.

        I think Tapping is a good actress, but the writers are flippin' clueless how to write a powerful woman. I think frankly, they have no idea what to do with a female character- it's sad, really.
  • So true! I tried to kill Carter off, but I just can't write it. There's no wink-and-grin, just the intense wish to plunge the knife down once more. I mean, Elizabeth was irritating, but Carter is so far beyond that it's just not funny.
    • I don't even want to read anything with Carter in it.
      • Yeah, let alone watch her screw up the team balance on Atlantis.

        It's kind of sad, really. She does have the potential to be a fun character, it's just ruined by the way she's written. Or perhaps by the way Tapping sees Carter, I don't know.
    • She's condescending to absolutely everyone. I can't stand it.
    • I think its partly the way Tapping sees Carter, as a Perflawed (perfectly flawed) human being. Whatever Tapping's attitudes are, it does come through the character, because, let's face it, in an interview a couple of years ago, she said that Carter was now at least 80-90% or more *her*. Which is to be expected after playing a character for so long (this was in the seventh season); but there is a point where the character disappears and the acting fails.

      Tapping may be a nice person, but Carter isn't, no matter how much Tapping and the producers would like to think so: Tapping's personality matrix just is NOT Carter's, if you know what I mean.
      • Yeah. And it's sad, because I actually liked her the first two-three seasons of SG-1. She had this sense of wonder, this excitability. Now she's just kind of jaded and walks around with an air of aloofness I simply can't relate to.

        I am willing to give her a chance, because after all, SGA has allowed for some modicum of character development. I'm just not sure anyone will allow Sam Carter the same character development, be it Tapping or the writers.

        Or even the rest of the cast, David Hewlett right on top of the list.
  • For me, killing Weir was more about getting John and Rodney together. There is no joy in killing Carter because I know that whatever we write, the show is just going to make it all better.

    Yep, I'm hoping that repliWeir comes back to haunt Carter for years to come!
  • Damn straight!

    I love killing Dr Weir, but I still love Dr Weir.
  • ::whistles:: I might be the only one that actually enjoys killing Carter. Of course, it has nothing to do with her being a character I love to hate but rather more to do with it just feels really, really good to be able to get rid of her in fic when I know they won't be on the show. Killing Carter is cheap therapy to help me deal with the fact that the character I despise above all others in the stargate universe has now invaded my show. *stabs her*

    So while I absolutely agree that Weir was ours and killing her off was tongue in cheek...I'm not at all going to have a problem with killing Carter off in many, horrible ways and if people are all *gasp* offended on her behalf, tough. Even if my writing mojo is kind of dead at the moment, I'm still going to be picturing the character dying, dead, GONE, every time I see her on screen. *stabs her again*
    • I absolutely do not blame you for wanting to kill her off in all seriousness - there is *nothing wrong* with that. Heck, I wouldn't mind seeing the character die off in a mightily unpleasant, and yet satisfying, way.

      If I still wanted to write SG1 fic, however, I'd get more joy out of killing Vala off, or having Vala kill Carter, or having them off each other off in a stand-off, and that would make me very happy. And it would be fun.

      So yes, I understand. And go for it! I wouldn't mind seeing fic in which Weir killed Carter off.
      • Mwahaha!! *grins*

        I've written two kill Carter stories already. I imagine, especially after seeing her BLAME MCKAY without having a CLUE about what happened to them, I'll most likely be wanting to kill her off even more as the season progresses.

        *snerk* Well...now that Weir is half repli!Weir *grins* she could probably take care of Carter. ;)
  • Ick

    For me, the Great Schoolmarm Weir was never a patch on the story telling obscenity that was Mary Sue Carter. Seriously! It takes effort to make a canon character into a complete, must-die Mary Sue, but the dooodz @ Bridge were willing to expend at least that much sweat over the writing on SG-1.

    I'm still here to watch, in a train-wreck sort of fascination, to see if the fanservice to Sam'n'Jack shippers holds, and Sam stays "faithful" to her man, or if the Bridge short term memory issues apply even to their own story lines and the Golden One starts Pavlovian panting after the local Colonel.
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